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Midget Mansion of San Antonio Explained
Sep 25th, 2006 7:13:44 pm - SubscribeMood: good
Music: Midget Mansion Music
Explains my personal knowledge of Midget Mansion, located on the Northwest side of San Antonio Texas
Notice - Image above is another mansion in this area that Midget Mansion may have looked like.
So first off is it true? Well one of the long time residents of San Antonio says it was. Actually he stated before the homes location became a luxury apartment complex, he used to run for exercise through the back areas because there use to be trails. At that time Midget Mansion was abandoned, there was nothing but the home in ruin.
I will now let everyone know the real truth behind Midget Mansion and all of its surroundings as how I know it from people that I have talked to.
Where is Midget Mansion
Midget Mansion is located in San Antonio, Texas at:
Promontory Pointe
4114 Medical Dr
San Antonio, TX 78229
No Midget Mansion is NOT located at near Cha-Cha's.....and NO its not by the major retailer Lowes at:
LOWE'S OF N.W. CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO, TX #1155
7901 Callaghan Road
San Antonio, Tx 78229
Though it is true that a Mansion was located at the now Lowes location. But it was torn down many, many years ago. According to my friend who has lived here in San Antonio at the same location for the past 20 years Midget Mansion was indeed located at what is now Promontory Pointe Apartments.
He stated to me that back in the day all that was left a sum odd 20 years ago was a foundation and a small amount of structure. He stated that he use to walk on the foundation and it was rather large, mansion like.
So is Midget Mansion an Urban Legend
No it is not, there is actual cases of which Midgets actually lived at the location. Weither or not they actually commited murder and suicide is perhaps indeed an urban legend.
The story of Midget Mansion
It is said that long ago in the early 1900's a family of midgets / small people lived in a mansion. The owner a midget himself was a very wealthy business owner in downtown San Antonio Texas. He had a wife, who was also a midget and 2 children...one male and one female. The children themselves were not small, but regualar sized people.
As the story goes. The husband arrived at the home and simply murdered his wife, and two children with a shot gun. Then hung himself in a bedroom closet.
What is unknown is why he did it...or weither or not this part of the story is true or not, I suppose its up to you as the reader to believe. But what is fact, is that there was a mansion located between Medical & Donore Pl. which is again Promontory Pointe.
If you have any questions or have perhaps another side of the story I would urge you to comment below. Please create serious entries, all others will be removed.
Location of Midget Mansion
External Links to Midget Mansion
Questions?
Myself & my friend live at Spyglass Hill Condominums right next to where Midget Mansion use to be. If you have any questions, comment below. I will ask him pesronally to try and set the records straight about this.
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anonymous - October 06th, 2006 are there any telling of the paranormal |
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david - October 11th, 2006 Not anymore from what I know of. Probably the best thing to do is ask the residents of Promontory Pointe apartments. Perhaps we can have a few people that lived there comment about it. |
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anonymous - October 11th, 2006 I my self have been to the torn down mansion when I was younger. I remember clearly that it forked in the middle of a trail and the chimineys went far as the eye can see. Almost like it was maze like in the mansion. I'm fortunate to have witness a myth or folk tale. Thanks for letting me comment. |
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david - October 11th, 2006 anonymous - October 11th, 2006, yes you are indeed lucky...if you have a picture or a stenciled image we would be happy to add it to this entry. Thanks for the information! Does anyone else have anything to add? |
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anonymous - October 18th, 2006 I remember hearing that if you would throw something into it, it would come back up |
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anonymous - October 22nd, 2006 I read a book about San Antonio Hauntings and it said that the owner of the home like you stated had a wife (who was also a midget) and 2 normal sized kids, but that he went crazy and slit their throats and threw them in a closet. And that he later went and pulled them out of the closet cleaned them up and dressed them in nice clean clothes and then put them back in the closet. And after that he commited suicide. From the book i read it also stated that they must have still been alive when he first placed them in the closet cuz there were bloody handprints all over the inside of the closet. Just thought I'd tell about what I had read and how it differed from what you've been told. |
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anonymous - November 05th, 2006 I remember hearing that there were " sacrifices" going on at the midget mansion. I don't no what was being sacrificed, and I don't know if it is true. |
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anonymous - December 10th, 2006 i lived in an apartment complex near callahan and loop 410 back in 1988-1989.some of the guys i ran with[i was 17 at the time]told me of a place called midget mansion and about devil worshipping and ghosts and other wierd stuff that went on there.well,i had to find out for myself so i got my friends and made them take me there.from what i can remember it was kinda up on a hill,but there wasn't much there but some foundation,a bunch of rubble and trash.i also think i remember an old well.it was kinda of spooky,being as i was a kid,but i do remember having a feeling of being watched.we also found a couple places that you could crawl down into and there was actually tunnels under the ground.some were dirt,some were rock walled.we ended staying the night ,which none of us wanted to do,except for the wimp factor and dares,which i remember staying in a round concrete structure which was at one time some kinda pond.nothing scary tried to get us that night.but ,once again,being just kids,with it being woods around the place at that time,you hear a lot of strange noises at night.i only lived there in san antonio for a year,and have never been back since,but if i ever make it back,i would definitely like to go check it out again.i am now 35. |
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anonymous - January 31st, 2007 Growing up we used to live in the Crossing Apts (what is now Sage Crossing). My cousins & I would go to Midget Mansion all the time. Jumped a fence & walked up the hill to what was left...as mentioned mostly foundation with a bunch of trash. We would spend hours up there sifting through all of the buildings. There were what seemed to be servants quarters past & behind the main foundation. We never found anything that resembled worshiping of satan or anything like that. We did go up there one time and as we got to the top of the staircase (that I assume used lead to the front porch)...we spotted two people in some type of protective gear (the kind you see fireman wearing when the is toxic danger) with some hand held meters of some kind & 2 dobermans. The dogs saw the bunch of yes & started to chase us. You never saw 8 mexican kids run so fast screaming & pryaing we didn't get chewed up by some dogs. That was the last time we went up there. At the time we were all in our late teens we are all at or approaching 40 now. |
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anonymous - March 08th, 2007 yep.i remember midget mansion myself.my friends and i used to go there in my teen years late at night..just to see if there were any midgets..or ghosts by chance..i wish it was still around..i would have liked for my kids to have experienced it.just as the comment from anonymus stated on dec 10th 2006.i remember it just like that.i thought the place still existed.i miss that place though..but at least we have the memory remaining.i too am 35 yrs.old now.boy, i wish i could see it now like it was back in da day. |
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anonymous - March 30th, 2007 I remember that place when I was young. I use to live off Data point. they would say only guys that were fast could run up to the hill. and they would get killed if they were caught. Supposedly there was a small house next to the mansion. that's were the midgets actually stayed until a girl got tired of hearing that only guys that were fast could actually make it. so, she ran up there and burned the small house next to the mansion. all the midgets died and for some unknown reason....so did she. At the time, only rich people lived on the hill. They would claim reports of seeing a young girl walking around the mansion. at that time the mansion was vacant. a couple of years went by. Then a bunch of devil worshipping teenagers started staying at the mansion. They were always sacrificing animals. all the residents up on the hill would complain of hearing animal screams and eerie sounds but, when the cops would go to the house, there would be no one there. after awhile the cops got tired of responding to the calls so they stop going to the mansion. that;s when things got bad. They said the teenagers who were going there got really into killing and sacrificing. they started doing it to each other. But, after awhile the cops finally went up there again after reports of a foul smell. i don't remember how many bodies were discovered. they said there was blood all over the walls. Bodies were in pieces. most were run away teenagers. Some kids were arrested in connection of this. they said they were possessed. They would hear voices. They claim off seeing midgets. a whole bunch of stuff. So that's when the mansion was about to be torn down but, A@W Root Beer wanted the house for a commercial so they did. I saw the commercial but, nothing eerie. Then the house was torn down. There is a lot of stories to midget mansion. but, in truth...no one really knows! |
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brenda_g - March 30th, 2007 I remember that place when I was young. I use to live off Data point. they would say only guys that were fast could run up to the hill. and they would get killed if they were caught. Supposedly there was a small house next to the mansion. that's were the midgets actually stayed until a girl got tired of hearing that only guys that were fast could actually make it. so, she ran up there and burned the small house next to the mansion. all the midgets died and for some unknown reason....so did she. At the time, only rich people lived on the hill. They would claim reports of seeing a young girl walking around the mansion. at that time the mansion was vacant. a couple of years went by. Then a bunch of devil worshipping teenagers started staying at the mansion. They were always sacrificing animals. all the residents up on the hill would complain of hearing animal screams and eerie sounds but, when the cops would go to the house, there would be no one there. after awhile the cops got tired of responding to the calls so they stop going to the mansion. that;s when things got bad. They said the teenagers who were going there got really into killing and sacrificing. they started doing it to each other. But, after awhile the cops finally went up there again after reports of a foul smell. i don't remember how many bodies were discovered. they said there was blood all over the walls. Bodies were in pieces. most were run away teenagers. Some kids were arrested in connection of this. they said they were possessed. They would hear voices. They claim off seeing midgets. a whole bunch of stuff. So that's when the mansion was about to be torn down but, A@W Root Beer wanted the house for a commercial so they did. I saw the commercial but, nothing eerie. Then the house was torn down. There is a lot of stories to midget mansion. but, in truth...no one really knows! -brenda |
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anonymous - May 09th, 2007 Had alot of good times at Midget Mansion. Once, me and my friends were about to pay homage to the midgets by smoking some weed, when we heard some people at the bottom of the hill. Since we often ran into other groups of people out there for the same reason we were we thought it was just another group of teenagers. So a couple of my buddies go barrelling down the hill to the surronding trees in an attempt to hide and mess with the people as they made there way up by making growling and making other generally spooky noises. My other friend begins the ritual of crafting a fattie as we all sit around him. Nobody seemed to notice that our friends weren't sounding like the hounds of hell or that the people weren't making any more noise either. As soon as my friend finishes doing what he did best and we start making bird noises that will signal to our friends that it is time a flashlight flicks on! There were two police officers standing right next to us! No wonder our friends didn't unleash the beast. No wonder the other people didn't make any noises after starting up the hill! No wonder our friends stayed hiding in the woods! Those two cops managed to sneak right up on us, I don't know how anyone didn't see them since we were all sitting in a nearly complete circle and every view was covered, but they didn't! Luckily my friend doing the rolling had his back directly facing the cops and he slowly stood up and threw the j down and stood on it. The cops must have heard our friends somewhere down the hill because the first thing they said is for us to call them out of the woods. We start hollering their names and they pop out of three foot tall grass not 30 feet from us! I guess they went into commando mode when seen the cops or thought they were ninjas. Whatever the case it caused the cops to almost draw their guns. They asked us some questions then told us to leave and if the caught us out there again they would arrest us. We walked away and the cops stayed. As soon as we turned the corner and were out of sight we ran...fast! Anyway, that is one of many midget mansion stories from my past. I hope you enjoyed it. |
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anonymous - June 29th, 2007 When i was younger i used to go up there, but when i went the house had been leveled and the pool was filled in. A freind of my brothers was arrested there before they filled in the pool for satanic rituals, so i know that DID take place. As far any evil or spirits running amok on the property i dont think so, i knew a girl who lived at promentary point for 2 years and i stayed over alot (she was a good cook) and nothing ever happen. Only starge thing that happen to me was, about 1990 i went up there with a freind and as we were walking about the circular driveway you could hear footsteps in the leafs on the ground and when you stopped it stopped. it was freaky. But it was a neat experience. |
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anonymous - July 01st, 2007 well i live in san antonio but i've never been there but wat i heard is dat if u go there midgets thrash ur car wit plates and rocks and other stuff well idk if its true but im jus letting everyone know |
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anonymous - July 10th, 2007 what about the midget mansion that supposedly existed on the south side near stinson air field? |
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david - July 11th, 2007 Ive never heard of it, can anyone confirm this claim for anonymous July 10th 2007? |
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anonymous - July 22nd, 2007 I usd to work at Promontory Pointe Apartments and weird stuff happend. If you don't belive go and ask the new Leasing Agents. |
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anonymous - September 03rd, 2007 yea it's true.....i just wish the house was still there so i could buy it....its part of san antonio history... |
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david - September 03rd, 2007 I just linked some pictures of the mansion to my entry. They are located on my Flickr profile. Keep in mind that these pictures are not of midget mansion, but are of a mansion that is near Spyglass Hill and Promontory Pointe. |
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anonymous - September 19th, 2007 i lived next to midget mansion in '83 - it was a great old house. I remember the pool being full of sludge and the 'servent's quarters' off beyond the trees just a bit. And I remember seeing the tunnels, and people used to use rope to be able to find their way out. Saw the rope, went home. :0) |
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anonymous - September 25th, 2007 My brother used to tell me stories about the Midget mansion.. but I don't know how true they were.. since he's no longer with us.. I can't ask.. but I remember him taking me to this place and the mansion was no longer there, but just a huge piece of slab. Anyhow.. we drove in.. I remember a curving drive way.. when we made it halfway in.. It started to feel really creepy almost like we were being watch and if we didin't leave immediately something would happen.. I remember feeling a horrified fear and begged my brother to please leave. I must have been about 13 and he was 22. I had never really researched it as to what happened there.. but I know I never wanted to go back .. it scared the heebeegeebees out of me. |
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anonymous - September 27th, 2007 Midget Mansion was not on medical drive!It was on Vance-Jackson,where Wal-mart is now.It did Not burn down.Nobody killed themselves in it either.It was built by my great grandfather Gillespie.He was only 4ft-6in tall,so it was plenty big enough for him.It looked nothing like your picture either.I have pics of it with my family out in the yard at a picnic table.It was torn down(bulldozed) after my uncles sold the land to Wal-mart Inc.Maybe you have heard of Gillespie Ford.Who do you think started it?Urban legends are made up by fools who have nothing better to do with their time.My great Grandfather's house was not haunted either.If people would look up old court records,they would find out how foolish urban legends are.I don't like my family's name to be stained by stupidity.Brian Gillespie |
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anonymous - September 27th, 2007 Ive never heard of a migget mansion on vance-jackson. Thats a new one to me. |
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david - September 27th, 2007 Yea, I believe someone told you of a false story. A Mansion of Vance Jackson? Thats like a River Center Mall in Pleasington Texas.  |
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anonymous - September 29th, 2007 Been there many a time in the eary 80's. That Gillespie post is bogus. Had many interesting experiences there. Here are a couple. Went hiking up there from the back side just up from the 7 eleven with my brother and friend. We were confronted by a caretaker at gunpoint! I kid you not. He had a shotgun and made us hold up our hands and the whole bit. He complained about all the vandalism from kids in the area and made us promise to never come back. Of course we did go back anyway. I don't know who this guy was but I suspect we just happened upon him on a day when he was checking on the property. Never saw him again. Another time a few years later some high school friends and I were driving around killing time before going to the movies when we drove through the gate. The place had a big circle drived that would take you a half minute or so to go around. By the time we had circled around back to the gate the exit had been blocked by big tree limbs. Well we had been drinking and decided to give whoever did this a scare themselves so we got out yelling and got a baseball bat out of the trunk and went running through the trees screaming like wild men. Oh to be young, drunk and stupid. I can confirm that there was a sludge filled pool in the back. Also there was alot of devil worshiping symbolism painted about. Pentagrams and stuff like that. We had always heard about cults going up there. One more legend I heard about the place and haven't seen mentioned is that supposedly there were riches buriied in there somewhere. Hope this sheds some light. |
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anonymous - October 02nd, 2007 I used to live at Bluffcreek apartments around 1982. We used to go up to the mansion when the structure was still there. Pretty much a burnt out shell. I remember the black and white checkered driveway. We would walk up the hill from the backside and pause at the rock wall about 3/4 the way up the hill. At the time we would enter through the garage and walk into a small hall that ended at a dumbwaiter with a staircase to the right that would lead up into the building. Nothing really scary about it except the legends. There were a few toilets laying about that were in fact no more than maybe a foot high from the base to the top of the bowl. The doorknobs on the front doors as well as the few remaining doors were set about half as high as what is standard now. The pool was sludge filled with lots of graffiti. There was a vacation style trailer on the property which was supposed to house a caretaker of the land who would chase you off the property if he saw you, but we never saw him or him us. The other mansion in the area which is where Lowes is now was at the time the headquarters for Bartlett Cocke construction. Both long gone in the annals of time. |
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anonymous - October 11th, 2007 i live in san antonio and i never knew about this mansion...but i just moved out of a haunted house a few months ago, is not a famous house or anything but it for SURE is haunted and i know because i lived there. The house is on camp bullis rd. right next to the new shopping center the RIM, near Cantera mall. The house is right next to a military base. When my family and i moved there our neighbor told us a few stories about the house but since the house was in a huge lanndscape my parents still decided to move in. outside the house there is a big tree with a small tree house, which supposubly two kids were playing on and one of them fell off hitting his head on a rock and died. they buried the little kid right there near the tree. Now anyone who tries to get in the tree house is pushed away (the little kid wont let you get on it). One day i decided to make a movie night at my house at night then i started telling my friends about all the stories about the house, then we went outside and tried to get in the tree house but no one could get on...i tought my friends where just playing around trying to scare each other but when i myself tried to get on it my hands kept on slipping off (which is weird because it was non slippery wood) like something was taking my hands off, then when i finally got a grip when i tried to push myself up my legs felt super heavy and i just couldnt get on! we all got really scared but still decided to go around the house to another haunted place. outside the house there is a little bridge where a military car or something like that got stuck a couple of years ago (when the bridge was bigger and the lake was way deeper) some soldiers died there. and at night you can hear moans and voices. i hated staying home by myself in that house specially because it was surrounded by alot of trees and had huge windows all around the house. so yeah i think people should go over and check out the tree house (and the tomb where the little kid was buried, its still there and it has a name and a date and everything!)...its pretty creepy, all my friends are witnesses that the tree house story is TRUE! |
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anonymous - October 14th, 2007 I THOUGTH THERE WERE NO STAIRS AT THE MANSION SO THE MIDGETS WOULDNT ESCAPE AND THAT THE PARENTS WERE EVIL AND WOULD LOCK THE KIDS AWAY IN THEIR ROOMS.... I DUNNO .. ANYONE HAVE SOMTHING TO DIFFER PLS, CMNT BACK |
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anonymous - October 17th, 2007 Reading all those posts were interesting. I went to the mansion in the years of 1973 thru 1975 while in high school. Just a bunch of kids driving around partying, trying to see if we could get a glimpse of the "midgets". One time we stopped and some of the guys started up the drive (I think there was a chain roping it off) and we heard a sound and they turned to run back to the car. One of them fell and cut his hand on the beer bottle he was holding and we had to drive quick to a Stop-n-Go or Mr. M's store and get something to stop the bleeding. Teens from the 70's know of the "Midget Mansion", the "Stone Bull" and the "Pool"........ |
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anonymous - October 18th, 2007 There were two places we would go to when I was in high school. One was Midget Mansion, which is in the area where Promentory Pointe is now. We would park on the street that Lindy's is on, and go up the hill. When we went, in the early 80's, there was only the foundation left, not a house, and there was lots of graffiti and what looked like satanic -type markings, and tons of trash, like beer bottles and such. The other place was a house off of the access road of IH-10 and Vance Jackson, in an area past where the Bill Miller's is now. There was a long, long driveway, and the house was still there, but in ruin. There was a staircase you could climb, and rooms you could still roam around in, but it was very dangerous. People would hang out there and drink, until the police would come and chase us all out. I believe that the house was even used as a Haunted House one Halloween. It has since been demolished and a bank is there, and Walmart is behind where the house was located. |
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anonymous - October 24th, 2007 My sister and I used to go there in the late 70s, early 80's and the creepy garage/play area by the swimming pool is where we were always the most creeped out. It was like you were being watched. Wasn't the manson near another haunt... Black Swan Lake? |
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anonymous - October 28th, 2007 I went to both places around 1980-1983. The one off Vance Jackson was pretty large, and you could go upstairs but had to be pretty careful because it was all torn up and there were holes in the floor. I heard it used to be a restaurant, but that could be wrong. Maybe this is the home that was in the Gillespie family? But we didn't consider that one to be Midget Mansion... I never knew a name for it... it was just a cool place to go party. I'm pretty sure it's where the SACU branch is now. As far as Midget Mansion, when I went it was pretty much gone, just a foundation. People got all freaked out when they went there but I just thought it was funny. We used to take girls up there and get them all scared, but I never actually witnessed anything out of the ordinary. It was definitely where the Promontary Pointe apartments are now. I grew up just on the other side of I-10 and would walk over there sometimes. I'm 42 now. |
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anonymous - November 02nd, 2007 your talking about same place. it was near chachas and loews and Near where your saying it was where the nice apartments are now at the top of the hill. I went there all the time. it was nearly a full structure at first than fire after fire finally brouht it down. |
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anonymous - November 02nd, 2007 using your map link it was at the intersection of tupelo and donore. all that land at the elbow in the road was midget mansion. god i miss it. |
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anonymous - November 28th, 2007 I had an opportunity to enter Midget Mansion in 1981 and '82. It had a basement(cellar), dumbwaiter(or elevator), pool in the back, 2 stories, large front entrance w/ steps. This gets me; I saw short toliets and lowered door knobs. Its now the Promontory Pointe Apartments. Where the tennis court is at the very back, that would put you SE of the front entrance to where the mansion once stood. The other mansion off vance jackson(was not the midget mansion) was what was once the GECU haunted house. After that it was destroyed. I was there in 1981 the house was in bad shape the second floor had holes. It was a drive to the back to get to it but was a fun place to hang out until word got out and was vandallized to total destruction. |
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anonymous - December 08th, 2007 Wow, this brings back some memories! I remember my girlfriend and some of her friends took me to this weird place in '79 or '80. I vividly remember us all drinking and driving around and then deciding to go to Midget Mansion. I remember cars parking along the street and then climbing up a hill to the house. The street was pretty dark and the moon was shining pretty bright. It was a very surreal and freaky place. I remember there bing lots of other groups of kids running around at the same time...trying to scare each other and running in to each other....smoking and drinking. There was definately an upstairs, pool, and separate house at the back. The place was huge, with numerous rooms and unusual features...and littered with bottles and all kinds of graffiti. I seem to remember there was a sense of urgency to quickly go through the thing and get out before you got caught....everyone else seemed to be in the same mode. It was a wonderful time to be young and like some of the other posters, I'd give anything to see it again, though I'm sure it could never live up to our youthful memories. Thanks for the memories, Jen! |
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anonymous - December 09th, 2007 the place was actually a party spot back in the 80s. the tunnels, pool, and servant buildings are all true. ive been there many times with girlfriends, cousins, and friends. we used to have to hide from cops in the statue holes in the front steps leading into the fields. we would make bongs from the bamboo that grew in that field. 40 years old now, funny how people are still intrested in the mansion and the stories. Wurzbach Manor Teen-80s |
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anonymous - December 24th, 2007 This is great seeing all these comments. When I tell people of Munchkin Mansion, they always think I am pulling their leg. It sounds like such crap! But it's not. Most of what I've read here jives with my memories ( Get rid of the Gillespie one,, it IS total crap). Here's what I can tell ya. I went a few times back in the early 80 when I was a new teenager. My friends and I would have our parents drop us off at the Theater, back when it was Northwest 10, then we would hike it on over to the Mansion. When I first went there, it was still relatively intact. It was just the roof that had been burnt away. Rumor had it that the fire was started by some stoners on accident. And it is true that everything seemed built for midgets, tiny stairs, tiny toilets, short door knobs, even, and this doesn't make a lot of sense but it's true, I remember the garage door being really, really short, like for a midget mobile. The garage opened to the basement, that was really dark and creepy. I remember the elevator shaft was about the only source of light as the shaft went all the way up to the burnt out roof ( I don't think it was a dummy waiter. It was pretty big). I remember the pool was almost totally empty 'cept for a few feet of sludge. The steps there too were really tiny. There was no furniture anywhere in the house. It was only a few weeks later, maybe a few months, that the place was on the news for satanic sacrifice of animals, cats I think it was. I remember the images on the TV, the satanic spray paint etc. I remember clearly some expert saying that the whoever did this did not really know what they were doing, and were probably not real satanists. The bad press was enough for the city though. Shortly after they demolished the place. I went back a couple of times, but by then it was just a foundation and a memory, a really, really cool memory. There just aren't any places like that anymore. Mario Foxbaker |
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anonymous - January 01st, 2008 Its dwarfs. |
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anonymous - January 06th, 2008 I was about8 years old at this time and i can remenber going to a place like this with my best brother - in- law he took me and my two other sister god rest his soul he died soon after that trip. I know that we went up a hill and he told us just to be very quiet because we were not suppose to be there any ways I get a chill just talking about it . we past a small house and then another house till we saw a very small lady hold a tiny baby and she looked very upset at us being there the house was at least three feets tall so the lady was even smaller and imagine the baby .To me was a very scary things to see because i was from a small town that even now it is pop.1297 my sister gloria took apicture of the lady and then that when every thing went justlike if the devil had been loose a man or a boy came out after us i mean he was as small as the lady.he eas screaming loud at us and we just kept running it was so long ago that the cameras that were in use and new at the time are the ones that you pull out and wait for the picture to develop i will never forget because i have a scar on my left leg where the fence that we all cross inbeded in me .i talk to my sister gloria because she is the only other person that is still alife my second sister diedat about 6 years later . Iam only pointing it out because their is only myself and gloria that can talk about but the last time i told her about the miget mansion she claim to tell me like what are you talking about. I forgot to tell you that as god as my wittness she lost her whole family her son that was ony 6 months old her other son that was 2 years old and her other daughter at the age of 3years old and last but hurt all the same 13 years later her sonby this time was 18years old she alway tries to avoid the questions I ask her do you think it had to do with the picture she took you see thier were other houses but again it was one of those camera yhat you had to pull and when we got chase off that was the only one she got.ooooooooooooooooohhh! |
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anonymous - January 24th, 2008 i also lived off callahan and loop 410 in 1994-95 and heard of the local "legend " of midget mansion. im sure the story has changed a million times since its inception, but the version i was told was of a mansion where drug dealers resided and had a fatal shootout with law enforcement, who in turn, burned the place to the ground! anyways, the location of the place i am referring to is indeed across from CHA-CHOS (NOT CHA-CHAS) down a hill and the entrance is off to the right. the night my friends and i were gonna "visit" the location we approached an entrance where the chain link fence appeared as if it had been ripped open. there were various symbols spray painted on the road in front of the entrance, some appearing to be cultlike in appearence. anyways we made the sudden decision we didn't wanna visit here after all and upon returning home we were harassed and yelled at by a motorist and his/her companions as we walked. the people yelled "go home, you don't belong here!" or something to that effect. we took their advice and got the hell outta there. apparently there is something to the rumor that there was some kind of gathering spot there for satanists or weirdos b/c you(david) and a few other people on this site have mentioned this exact location. i would appreciate any further info you may have on this particular spot. and on a further note, i was told of tunnels in this area where satanists, weirdos, whatever have you did go to gather. |
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anonymous - February 08th, 2008 I am not from San Antonio. however my husband is. we have been doing alot of research on the mansion. i have been told everything that two teenagers were killed in the mid 80's and a year later a news team was there to do a remember when story- and they experienced some interesting events. from what i was told by my husband. he said that there were statues all the way around this house. he was just a kid when he went out there. he thinks that it was a school field trip. or one of his family members took him. i was told that the land once belonged to George Strait. And when they were clearing the land that is when they found this mansion. The san antonio historical society found out about it, they took the land from him. they then made it into the Midget Mansion Museum. There are again so many variations of this story. But what i understand that there is something there. I am not sure what it is. but my husband have been ivestigating different spots in the San Antonio area for some time now. And what we are doing is getting actual facts from fiction. But what we know is that this land here in San Antonio is very old with alot of history. but from what i have found out is that from every myth - there is some truth to every story that has been told through the generations. thank you for letting me add my comment. |
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anonymous - March 03rd, 2008 i'm doing research on a paper for this.. does anyone have any record of interviews of people who were around the time of the killing(s)? |
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anonymous - March 10th, 2008 About 20 years ago I remember going to the midget mansion, on a dare. I can remember there was a very large vacant swimming pool and yes of course a large home with many rooms. I recall entering thru the broken window of one of the bathrooms and it was indeed a midget type set up, everything was smaller closer to the ground. It was quite scary and I didnt spend much time inside. And that was the extent of my midget mansion experience. |
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anonymous - March 12th, 2008 Some friends and I use to go to Midget Mansion to hang out and drink.We would go there almost every other weekend back in 1986 (I think). I remember there was an empty pool and a poolhouse. There were names of local bands written all over the bottom of the pool. Such as:Scrotum nose-dive,F.I.F.H.,ETC..I remember there were what we would call traps.They were deep holes in the ground covered over by brush.I remember the fork in the road. The teenagers that were arrested there at Midget Mansion at that time,were written about in the newspaper as being satanic worshippers,and sacrificing animals. Well, that was a bunch of "B.S." made up by whoever wrote that story . I should know, I was one of the teenagers arrested. All we were doing was hanging out and drinking by the empty pool,when the police came out of the bushes and arrested us all ! They kept asking what kind of a cult we belonged to ? Because we happened to be dressed in black and some of us wearing t-shirts bearing names and pictures of punk rock bands. |
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anonymous - March 31st, 2008 I live here at promontory pointe now, and strange things always seem to happen. Radios and TVs turning off and on.....crazy noises from time to time. Buddy of mine thats visiting from out of town claims he saw a small dark figure; he had no idea about the mansion(had to show him this site so he could belive me). I myself have seen things but play it off . I have a bunch of friends that live in the complex and they all pretty much say the same as me; its every now and then that it happens. But regardless its pretty creepy stuff !! |
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anonymous - April 07th, 2008 I used to work a promentory pointe,the cleaning ladies always told stories of hearing things and a radio turning on.I only heard a door slam closed in a vacant apartment,but it could have been anything,I never thought it was something paranormal but who knows? |
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anonymous - April 10th, 2008 Back in the late 80's me and some friends went up to midget mansion. As we were walking we would hear footsteps as if something was following us. We also heard all kinds of weird sounds. Creepy sounds. We also found a passage way under the stairs. You could stand under the platform where the stairs were, when you look up there was a 2 x 2 opening. We crawled up in there and there were two more openings, one to the right and another one to the left. We decided to go back the next day with some rope and flashlights. We started to go down the right side. It was about a foot high and about 3 feet wide. It was going down at an angle. Our flashlights just quit working, so my friend used his lighter. His lighter only came on for a few seconds. Enough time for us to see a hook about 2 inches away from his neck with jinxed written above it. The rope broke. When we got him out of there, he said it was about an 8 x 8 rock room and that there were bones, lots of them. Whatever happened down there in that room scared him so bad that he will not talk about it up to this day. We also found tunnels. One tunnel we found started out the height of a normal size person. As we continued to walk through the tunnel, it would get smaller. We finally came to a small door. In front of the door we saw a few old burnt masks, and smeared blood (or what looked like blood) on the walls. We were too freaked out to open the door. We decided to leave. Once we crawled over the rock wall towards the end of the property we heard an evil giggle that echoed all over the hill as if it were in surround. I never went back!!!!!!! |
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anonymous - April 16th, 2008 I know im a little late but here is my encounter with the little people. About 2 weeks ago I was staying my buddies place @ Promontory Pointe building 1. It was about noon when he left to class and I stayed behind sleeping after a nite of partying. As I was taking care of busniess on the Crapper I heard someone messing with the door knob and heard a door open. I called out for my friend but got no answer. I played it off. A few minutes later I was brushing my teeth when I heard the same noise again. I opened the door the bath room to see who it was...still nothing..again I played it off. As I leaned into the sink to wash my face I saw a small figure out of the corner of my eye. I looked again but saw nothing. I got some crazy chills after that and felt uncomfortable. Later as I mentioned it to my friend, he told me he story of the Mansion. It sounded like complete BS so I did some reserch and found this web site. He also said one day he was watching TV with his dog, when she started growling at nothing and got violent as she eyeballed sumthing that seemed to move cross the livingroom. Another friends would tell me that his alarm clock would sound off @ 11 pm a few times a week and or that he would come home to find the radio on. Shit I wonder what we were smoking that day... |
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anonymous - April 17th, 2008 the only thing i heard bout midget mansion is that a father killed his kids and that if you got near where the house used to be that rocks would throw themselves at you and that it was the kids doing it |
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anonymous - May 10th, 2008 This is great. I unfortunately never got to go to the mansion but knew where it was from my brother and for sure it was where Prom Point is now. His experience and I still remember it to this day. He and his friends went out there, probably in 1985. They came home with wild looks in their eyes. Either the caretaker or vagarant with a shotgun confronted them, had them spread eagle on the ground and threatened to kill them if theu returned. He went as far as to cock the rifle and put it in one of their faces. They never went back. I tell you, San Antonio rocks when it comes to folklore. The ghost tracks, donkey lady, midget manision. I grew up on all these stories. Thanks for letting me share. |
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anonymous - June 02nd, 2008 i used to live in the bluffcreek apts. (different name now) but a group of us (10 friends or so) used to go up there quite often. we were young and knew all the myths. we used to make weapons, blow-guns, take swords and bb guns (kid stuff) for protection. there was a bamboo forrest, cobble stoned drive way (which did fork around the property). there really were tunnels and outdoor concrete steps. the house was a pile of rubble. the pool house area was scary, there was satanic writing on the walls. it was kinda cool. ofcourse, like everything when youre young, it got kinda old. but still a cool memory. if anybody has questions, they can email me at POLOMAN444@HOTMAIL.COM |
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anonymous - June 02nd, 2008 cool |
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anonymous - June 02nd, 2008 im only ten but today me and my friends were talking about it today and my friends scared the pooh out of me but now i know they were over exadurating |
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anonymous - June 05th, 2008 Back in the late 80's a good friend lived at the Aspen Village Condos on Medical Dr. A large group of us (Former Laredoans) who lived in the medical center area at the time would gather at the condo for a night of drinking and smoking. After several hours of partying we would run across the street and up the hill (with our ice chest in tow) to what was left of the Midget Mansion. We used to hear other all types of strange noises and would assume that there were also other people rustling around up there as well. We would see Satanic symbols painted in what looked like blood on grottos and parts of the retaining walls around the property. Eventually the strange noises would get too intense and we would all run down the hill laughing and yelling at the same time. The version of the mansion's history that we heard involved an aristocratic family with a dark secret. They were into the occult and S & M and they captured and enslaved some midgets and would torture them for their own pleasure and force them participate in satanic rituals. I'm sure that version is not true, but we used to get a big kick out of that story. |
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anonymous - June 13th, 2008 I lived at Wurzbach Manor back in 86-88 and was one of the head banger alleged Satan worshiping teenagers. Me and my crew used to get high and trip acid and go in search of all things supernatural. I saw the entrance to the tunnels under the stairs and we found some cheesy pseduo gold statues and thought we were rich for about 5 minuets.there were lots of rumors little facts, the place was creepy/eerie. Me and my buddy actully got chased by some douche bag in a van who it seemed was truly hell bent on running us over. I did have some good times up on that hill but never saw a ghost, midget sized or other. My name is Mark and heres a list of some of those buds from back in the day....Johnny, Hector, Lysa, Danny, Chris, Mellisa, Vicki, Sally, Javier, Maria, Carrie...this is just to name a few. If any of you remember this crew and are intrested drop me a line. I live in Dallas these days and have been planning a trip down that way this summer. Anywho I can be reached at darthhartman21@yahoo.com and would like to here from any of yous guys. Love, peace and a bucket of chicken grease. |
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anonymous - July 01st, 2008 this shit is probly fake |
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anonymous - July 02nd, 2008 Mark, Don't remember you! Do you remember Russ, Danny, Kenny, Trey, Maggie, Jason, Tammy, Diane, Adrian, Brian, Stacy, Casey, Eloy, Renee, LIL Bob, Roy? |
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anonymous - July 06th, 2008 i have heard that he did kill his wife but let his kids die in a closet. i have also heard that if you go to the Midget Mansion ,and you go to the closet that the children died in, you can heare the kids scratching at the door trying to get out. |
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anonymous - July 08th, 2008 HEY...Is This Place Secure????......can people go in And Check It Out????? |
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anonymous - July 09th, 2008 Its not there anymore. tore it all down to build promentary pointe apartments.. |
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anonymous - July 22nd, 2008 UMMM...I live @ Prometory Pointe. I do belive in spirits & all,but not cause im spanish but because I have lived and seen spirits before. I could tell you stories that would freak you out... They are all true. As far as where I stay NOW...Im wondering if it is true. I have had some stange things happen around here as though kids were trying to play around with me. However, I just ignore it, Then it goes away. If you show them fear then they will keep coming back. |
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anonymous - July 23rd, 2008 I went to Midget mansion back in the 80's but after it was torn down. My older brother and his friends used to go when it was still standing. I remember having to run up the hill and there were steps of concrete. we would tell our mom we were going to stay the night at our friends apartments,"I think the greens", and then we'd stay the night at midget mansion. I remember there being a big fireplace that was left standing. There was lots of white power stuff written on it and of course some pentagrams. We lit a fire in the fireplace to keep warm and after a while a helicopter came "reeealy" low on us. we all scrambled to the woods and were scared. the helicopter left eventually. I think they were just checking on the smoke. We thought we saw some red eyes in the woods but we were kids so who knows...It did feel like we were being watched though. Anyone ever know anyone named Gabriel Alvarado,George and Pat AKA sir cumalot? Travis or belva kuhn? Holmes highscool or patneff? I lived at twin oaks apartments. Roger or mike? |
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